[vvc-l] Skype/323/SIP interop: request for information
s.horne at packetizer.com
Thu Mar 29 06:56:37 UTC 2012
While I have come late to the discussion and would certainly like to draw
the discussion back to the topic. I certainly know how to make bridging
between Skype and H.323/SIP work properly.
I was on the original development team of BlueJeans www.bluejeans.com and
wrote their H.323 implementation and worked with the team in india to handle
all the media processing in and out of skype. I didn't write their skype
implementation but I certainly understood the integrities of getting things
to work. I certain can attest to phill wolfe's comments on skype, I know it
all too well I lived them.
In a way I'm kinda bemused by the discussion on the topic from AARNET on the
topic and I will explain why.
After leaving BlueJeans to start Spranto I swore I would never look at skype
code again. I was asked several times (from a range of people) if I was
interested in building a gateway and I remember telling Jason (and others)
no way, for much the same reasons mentioned by phill wolfe. Anyway after a
demo of Spranto to the PM last year I was approached by a high official in
the DBCDE about a grant to build a skype-H.323 gateway. I said yes but I
wanted to get AARNET involved in the project. That was a mistake. I started
work on the project and asked if AARNET (through Jason) were interested in
hosting the gateway for trials. The tone of the discussion changed from
originally being cordial to ice cold and I was told emphatically NO. I
continued and built a working demo and showed it off on the sidelines of
Questnet last year. I invited AARNET management who were there to view the
demo but there was no interest. I was confused. I was complete devastated
by what happened next. The grant got cancel, when I requested why I was told
by the DBDCDE that expert advice provided from a member of AARNET management
that there was "no merit" in the project. I was devastated (and out of
pocket) and shut the whole project down. I then sent out feelers to sell the
code. I am currently in advanced discussion to do just that.
I can bring a test gateway cloud instance up in H323.net for people to test
in the next day or so to evaluate and act as a "point of discussion" but it
can only be temporary.
From: vvc-l-bounces at lists.aarnet.edu.au
[mailto:vvc-l-bounces at lists.aarnet.edu.au] On Behalf Of Jason Bordujenko
Sent: 29 March 2012 10:26
Subject: [vvc-l] Skype/323/SIP interop: request for information
Thanks for some great feedback on the desktop video initiatives that you are
investigating at your respective institutions. We have had an overwhelming
amount of discussion both on the list and privately about the solutions that
are currently proliferating and there are calls for another round of reviews
based on the current crop against the criteria we set in the DVPG report
handed down in July 2010
July2010.pdf). AARNet are keen to see the community drive this adoption off
the back of the interest that has been collated here and we are keen to see
whether this would be taken up by one of our fantastic customers and/or
partners to take this on based on the rating scales that were developed by
Additionally, and in line with the findings of this report, we are now
investigating Skype interoperability solutions. Has any of the learned VVC-l
community got some experiences on a product or solution that they have
implemented to interoperate between Skype and H.323 and/or SIP? There are a
number out there, however from our research there are very few that have
actually been able to deliver what they claim.
Phil Wolff from Skype Journal (http://skypejournal.com) has provided this
list of his top 7 desires for 'next gen Skype':
1. Talking to the Skype network through a protocol without Skype's software.
2. Personal data portability, so users easily bring/take profiles, contacts,
3. Developer TOS that permits deploying SkypeKit on servers and in
4. Freedom to deploy without Skype's signature on every release.
5. Security systems audited by independent experts and members of the
6. Scriptable desktop clients to customize the user interface.
7. SDKs for APIs that can be implemented in developer hours, not developer
Interested in any comments from VVC-l on the above or solutions that may
work to our advantage in bringing clients utilising Skype to our existing
conferencing capability sets?
PS. Don't forget the DST changeover this weekend! Please email us at
support at nvcs.edu.au if you have any concerns.
National Video Conferencing Support Manager, Applications & Services
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