[vvc-l] Skype/323/SIP interop: request for information
hschaefe at une.edu.au
Thu Mar 29 01:32:33 UTC 2012
Hello Jason & all
Thanks for this interesting info, and the prospect/ initiative for the future
Here my not so technical, but more practical input:
- The Skype "fans"
Many users don't know the difference (and obviously never experienced it) between point-to-point standards based video (pleeeze- don't say "teleconference"!! I am doing _telephone conferences_ as well...), and proprietary solutions. And they don't care. Why should they?
I am doing a lot of video connections here to the outside world, and the "S" word turns up with regular notoriety:
Job interviews. Though the university pays for external commercial sites (or gets a freebee occasionally- thank you, AARNet!), applicants don't like to travel to such sites, either because of some distance, or inconvenient time
I have to go through great lengths to explain why we won't connect other than h.323 or 320, and besides, applicants do themselves harm by using an unreliable, comparatively poor system (as of 2012)
Plus with "professional" vcf connection, there is some hope that the other end has some decent camera, lighting and microphone facilities- not necessarily the case with "cheap" solutions
Then we have a great number of students on the internet, some of their schools insist that regular tests/ presentations are done here at uni in person, or via video. H.323 or h.320, nothing else.
For a good reason (see above).
The situation gets a bit 'murky' now with h.323 compliant software available for broadband connected home computers, even iPads (v.2) can connect via apps, but 'pretty it ain't'...
There is a lot of testing and experimenting involved, and I often wonder if it is worth it, for essentially one-off events
What is used internally in a company/ universities for internal communication purposes is another matter altogether
Don't forget: Many people (administrators, secretaries) DON'T LIKE to be on video! They love their phones, which they grew up with, I presume
So to conclude:
Standards based point-to-point (h.323, SIP) yes, yes, yes
Proprietary: keep it at home, where it serves a purpose
Unless someone comes up with quality, trustworthy bridging.
But is there interest?
Interested in your opinion,
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From: vvc-l-bounces at lists.aarnet.edu.au [mailto:vvc-l-bounces at lists.aarnet.edu.au] On Behalf Of Jason Bordujenko
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: [vvc-l] Skype/323/SIP interop: request for information
Thanks for some great feedback on the desktop video initiatives that you are investigating at your respective institutions. We have had an overwhelming amount of discussion both on the list and privately about the solutions that are currently proliferating and there are calls for another round of reviews based on the current crop against the criteria we set in the DVPG report handed down in July 2010 (http://www.aarnet.edu.au/library/AARNet-Desktop-Video-Project-Final_Report_July2010.pdf). AARNet are keen to see the community drive this adoption off the back of the interest that has been collated here and we are keen to see whether this would be taken up by one of our fantastic customers and/or partners to take this on based on the rating scales that were developed by this group.
Additionally, and in line with the findings of this report, we are now investigating Skype interoperability solutions. Has any of the learned VVC-l community got some experiences on a product or solution that they have implemented to interoperate between Skype and H.323 and/or SIP? There are a number out there, however from our research there are very few that have actually been able to deliver what they claim.
Phil Wolff from Skype Journal (http://skypejournal.com) has provided this list of his top 7 desires for 'next gen Skype':
1. Talking to the Skype network through a protocol without Skype's software.
2. Personal data portability, so users easily bring/take profiles, contacts, history elsewhere
3. Developer TOS that permits deploying SkypeKit on servers and in businesses
4. Freedom to deploy without Skype's signature on every release.
5. Security systems audited by independent experts and members of the community
6. Scriptable desktop clients to customize the user interface.
7. SDKs for APIs that can be implemented in developer hours, not developer months.
Interested in any comments from VVC-l on the above or solutions that may work to our advantage in bringing clients utilising Skype to our existing conferencing capability sets?
PS. Don't forget the DST changeover this weekend! Please email us at support at nvcs.edu.au<mailto:support at nvcs.edu.au> if you have any concerns.
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